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Old 12-28-2010, 12:49 AM   #1
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Looks an awful like our Joint Strike fighter...

Is the First Chinese Stealth Fighter Ready For Takeoff?
Monday, December 27, 2010 - Aviation buffs are buzzing over blurry photographs now surfacing on Chinese military websites purporting to show Beijing's first stealth fighter jet, the Chengdu J-20 fighter. Chinese aviation fans says they have been snapping pics of the jet during recent taxi tests, with a first flight likely still weeks away. It's the best holiday gift Western air power advocates could wish for -- or further evidence of the self-licking ice cream cone nature of defense spending. Most likely, both.
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Half the fun of such sightings is trying to determine if they are real, or simply Photoshopped fighters created on computer screens. If you think it may be real, you try to figure out its utility -- and how other air forces might counter it. "Why would China need or want a short-range stealth aircraft?" asks Bill Sweetman of Aviation Week, a pre-eminent new-plane hunter. "Any targets with defenses that call for that capability are a long way from the mainland."

Some observers believe the jet is genuine, and overdue. "China has the money, they have the industrial expertise, they have the scientific base, the drive and motivation and of course the benefit of American research over 30 years acquired by legal or illegal means," one notes. "These enablers give China wide latitude in matching or exceeding American designs that are now 20 years old."

Others aren't so impressed. "Personally I think it is piloted by sharks and armed with an internally mounted death ray (technology provided by escaped Nazis who the Chinese found on the moon during their yet to be revealed highly secretive moon mission) with wing hard points wired for photon torpedos and Zeus's lightning rods," a second opined. "Oh, it is also a `carrier killer'." That, of course, is a major concern of the U.S. Navy. If war were ever to come between China and the U.S., it would likely be over Taiwan -- and U.S. aircraft carriers would be key to winning that fight. Stay tuned.

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China preparing for armed conflict 'in every direction'
29 Dec 2010 - China is preparing for conflict 'in every direction', the defence minister said on Wednesday in remarks that threaten to overshadow a visit to Beijing by his US counterpart next month.
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"In the coming five years, our military will push forward preparations for military conflict in every strategic direction," said Liang Guanglie in an interview published by several state-backed newspapers in China. "We may be living in peaceful times, but we can never forget war, never send the horses south or put the bayonets and guns away," Mr Liang added. China repeatedly says it is planning a "peaceful rise" but the recent pace and scale of its military modernisation has alarmed many of its neighbours in the Asia-Pacific, including Japan which described China's military build-up as a "global concern" this month.

Mr Liang's remarks come at a time of increasingly difficult relations between the Chinese and US armed forces which a three-day visit by his counterpart Robert Gates is intended to address. A year ago China froze substantive military relations in protest at US arms sales to Taiwan and relations deteriorated further this summer when China objected to US plans to deploy one of its nuclear supercarriers, the USS George Washington, into the Yellow Sea off the Korean peninsula. China also announced this month that it was preparing to launch its own aircraft carrier next year in a signal that China is determined to punch its weight as a rising superpower. The news came a year earlier than many US defence analysts had predicted.

China is also working on a "carrier-killing" ballistic missile that could sink US carriers from afar, fundamentally reordering the balance of power in a region that has been dominated by the US since the end of the Second World War. A US Navy commander, Admiral Robert Willard, told Japan's Asahi Shimbun newspaper this week that he believes the Chinese anti-ship missile, the Dong Feng 21, has already achieved "initial operational capability", although it would require years of testing. Analysts remain divided over whether China is initiating an Asian arms race. Even allowing for undeclared spending, China's annual defence budget is still less than one-sixth of America's $663bn a year, or less than half the US figure when expressed as a percentage of GDP.

However in a speech earlier this year Mr Gates warned that China's new weapons, including its carrier-killing missile, "threaten America's primary way to project power and help allies in the Pacific", underscoring the difficulties that lie ahead as China and the US seek to contain growing strategic frictions. As China modernises, Mr Liang pledged that its armed forces would also increasingly use homegrown Chinese technology, which analysts say still lags behind Western technology even as China races to catch up. "The modernisation of the Chinese military cannot depend on others, and cannot be bought," Mr Liang added, "In the next five years, our economy and society will develop faster, boosting comprehensive national power. We will take the opportunity and speed up modernisation of the military."

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Chinese jet fighter 'sighting' raises fears over region's military power balance
Wednesday 5 January 2011 : Image reportedly showing prototype of China's fifth generation J-20 stealth fighter has been circulating on the internet
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A photograph of what is reported to be a new Chinese stealth fighter and "carrier-killer" missile has prompted concerns that a tilt in the balance of military power in the western Pacific towards China may come sooner than expected. The emergence of the hi-tech weaponry - which would make it more difficult for the US navy and air force to project power close to Taiwan and elsewhere on China's coastline - comes at a politically sensitive time. Later this month, President Barack Obama and his Chinese counterpart, Hu Jintao, will hold a summit in Washington aimed at patching up their differences after a niggling year in bilateral relations.

The photograph, of what appears to be a prototype J-20 jet undergoing runway tests, has been circulating on the internet since last week, fuelling speculation that China's fifth-generation fighter may fly ahead of forecast. The defence ministry has yet to comment on the image, which seems to have been shot from long-distance near the Chengdu aircraft design institute. The photographer is also unknown, which has added to the mystery about its origins and authenticity as well as the motive of the distributor.



But defence analysts believe this is the first glimpse of the twin-engined, chiselled-nosed plane that mixes Russian engine technology with a fuselage design similar to that of the US air force's F-22 "stealth" fighter, which can avoid detection by radar. If confirmed, it would be an impressive step forward for the Chinese air force, which until now has largely depended on foreign-made or designed planes. "I'd say these are, indeed, genuine photos of a prototype that will make its maiden flight very soon," said Peter Felstead, the editor of Jane's Defence Weekly. The J20 is likely to be many years from deployment, but the US defence secretary, Robert Gates - who visits Beijing next week - may have to revise an earlier prediction that China will not have a fifth generation aircraft by 2020.

It is not the only challenge to US superiority in the region. China has refurbished a Ukranian aircraft carrier and wants to build its own by 2020. A more immediate threat is posed by China's adaptation of an intermediate-range ballistic missile - the DF-21D - to target US aircraft carriers. This project is also further advanced than previously believed. Admiral Robert Willard, the US navy's commander in the Pacific, warned last month that the weapon - nicknamed the "carrier killer' - had reached "initial operational capability". Faced by this threat US battle groups are likely to take a more withdrawn position if there is a standoff over Taiwan than they did in 1996, when the USS Nimitz sailed through the strait. "The main implication of China deploying this system is that it would certainly make the US navy pause before deciding to project naval power into the South China Sea region during a time of tension," said Felstead.

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We underestimated China, US official says after reports of J-20 stealth fighter
January 6, 2011 Washington - China has launched a test run for what appears to be its first J-20 stealth fighter plane, days ahead of trip by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to Beijing.
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As Defense Secretary Robert Gates prepares for a trip to Beijing starting Sunday in an effort to repair stressed relations with America’s biggest military rival, senior Pentagon officials are warning that the Pentagon has been “pretty consistent in underestimating” Chinese military advances. This week, China quite publicly launched a test run for what appears to be its first J-20 stealth fighter plane, capable of evading radar detection. This development comes on the heels of a new anti-ship ballistic missile. Although the United States miscalculated the speed with which China is capable of developing its defense technology, Vice Adm. David “Jack” Dorsett, head of Navy intelligence, told reporters Wednesday that accounts China has been hard at work building a stealth fighter are “not a surprise.”

At the same time, military analysts caution that China’s defense capabilities can be overestimated. “There does tend to be some tendency to take a Chinese asset – whether it is a particular type of missile or boat or radar or whatever – and ascribe to the Chinese the same capability that we would have if we had the same item,” says Dr. Kenneth Lieberthal, director of the John L. Thornton China Center at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “We have enormous experience on how to use these things. We have tested them in combat,” he says, while China has not. “And that makes an enormous difference.” For his part, Dorsett said that the Pentagon “certainly would not have expected them to be as far along as they are today” in technology – and that the Pentagon needs to refine its intelligence on military matters in China. “We’ve been on the mark on an awful lot of our assessments, but there have been a handful of things we have underestimated,” he said.

Another thing that’s been underestimated is the development of the new anti-ship ballistic missile. That weapon “has increased their probability of being able to employ a salvo of missiles to be able to hit a maneuvering target,” Dorsett said. This includes aircraft carriers, for example. But such moving targets are tough to hit, he emphasized. “The chances of hitting a carrier with a ballistic missile are pretty remote,” he said. Still, Dorsett said, “Yes, they have increased their proficiency in hitting a moving target. How proficient? They don’t know – and we don’t know.” To the Pentagon’s knowledge, China has not yet test-fired a ballistic missile “over water with moving targets,” he added. More troubling is the dexterity that China has “clearly” shown in cyberwarfare, said Dorsett, who called it the area he is “most concerned about.”

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China's stealth jet is no cause for alarm: US
January 6, 2011 - The day after a Chinese newspaper published photos of what is supposedly a prototype of China's first stealth jet, US officials said they are not worried about the development.
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The leak Wednesday of photos of a what appears to be a prototype of China’s first stealth fighter jet attracted immediate attention worldwide, but many note that China is years away from moving that jet into service. Pictures of the jet and accompanying articles appeared on the front page of the Chinese daily Global Times on Wednesday. The lack of a government suppression of the disclosure lends credence to China's reports, the Associated Press reports.

The Global Times did not comment on the authenticity of the pictures, but since the government wields extensive control over state media, the report's appearance and the fact that censors have not removed images from websites suggest a calculated move to leak the information into the public sphere. That in turn would reflect the growing confidence of the traditionally secretive People's Liberation Army, which is pushing for greater influence and bigger budgets. US defense officials don't appear worried. "It is not of concern that they are working on a fifth-generation fighter," since the Chinese are "still having difficulties with their fourth-generation fighter," Marine Col. Dave Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, told the Associated Press.

The prototype jet pictured in the leaked photos, known as a J-20, is notable because, like the US F-22, it would be undetectable by radar and antiaircraft defenses. The F-22 is currently the world’s only operational next-generation stealth fighter jet. The pictures emerged only days before US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates's visit to China planned for this weekend and a couple weeks before President Hu Jintao travels to the US to meet with President Obama, CNN reports. The timing of the disclosure is no coincidence, some say, and hints at China's new approach to military power – deterrence – by broadcasting their growing capabilities, The New York Times reports.

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Granny says if dey fly any o' dem Chengdu's over here - she'll blow `em outta the sky with her trusty Mossburg 12 gauge...

Greatest threat yet to US air superiority
Saturday 8th January, 2011 - New Chinese fighter poses major threat to US air dominance, say experts.
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China’s new stealth fighter, the J-20, which was rolled out recently to much fanfare, could pose a terrifying threat to US military dominance in the air, according to experts. “It’s probably leaps and bounds above where we are, and that’s terrifying,” decorated Navy fighter pilot Matthew ‘Whiz’ Buckley, told Fox News.

Buckley is also a Top Gun graduate of the Navy Fighter Weapons School and flew 44 missions over Iraq. The only real challenge to the J-20 on the US side is the F-22, developed by Lockheed Martin, but in 2009 production of this aircraft was capped by congress at 18, and instead the air force relies on its cheaper F-35s.

However, even the F-22 is bested by the Chinese Chengdu J-20, which can reportedly evade radar and exceed the F-22 in speed and agility. “From what we can see, I conclude that this aircraft does have great potential to be superior in some respects to the American F-22, and could be decisively superior to the F-35,” said Richard Fisher, a senior fellow on Asian Military Affairs at the Washington think tank, the International Assessment and Strategy Center.

Fisher told Fox News that the US would likely see China rolling out their new aircraft in serious numbers by the end of the decade, adding that the Chinese military has begun an extensive pilot training program, while the US has decreased flight time for new pilots, focusing instead on simulators. “We used be number one at having the leading technology,” said Buckley. “Now, we’re kind of in catch-up mode, where we’ve never really been before.”

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Gates says China moving fast on new weapons
Jan 9,`11 -- U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates says China's rapidly developing defense capabilities are worrisome to the United States.
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China has made strides in building a new stealth fighter jet and Washington is also concerned about a new ballistic missile that could theoretically explode a U.S. aircraft carrier nearly 2,000 miles out to sea. China has also apparently beaten U.S. estimates to develop that weapon. Gates arrived Sunday in Beijing for talks about these weapons and other military issues with Chinese leaders. "They clearly have potential to put some of our capabilities at risk," Gates told reporters traveling with him to Asia. "We have to pay attention to them, we have to respond appropriately with our own programs."

The United States has long known that China wanted to field a stealth jet, but development outpaced U.S. intelligence estimates, Gates said. China is still years behind U.S. capabilities in radar-evading aircraft, and even by 2025 the United States would still have far more such aircraft flying than any other nation in the world, Gates said.

China says it does not pose a threat and its military forces are purely for defense - which in its definition includes deterring Taiwan, a self-governing island that Beijing claims as its territory, from declaring formal independence. In an apparent nod to U.S. calls for more openness, China allowed video and pictures of last week's runway tests of its prototype stealth fighter to be taken and posted online. Gates is trying to coax Chinese military leaders into more regular discussions with the U.S.

The Pentagon is focusing scarcer defense dollars on ways to counter the kinds of weapons China is now building. For example, Gates said recently he wants to spend more on a new long-range nuclear bomber and updated electronics gear for the Navy that could throw an incoming missile off course. Gates will also visit South Korea for talks about averting war with the North, as well as Japan, which is alarmed by Chinese military moves. The invitation to visit Beijing was a coup for Gates, who invited a Chinese counterpart for similar talks and a visit to the U.S. nuclear weapons headquarters in 2009.

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China's New Fighter Jet Could Pose 'Terrifying' Challenge to U.S. Fleet
January 07, 2011 | While the Pentagon downplays China’s rollout this week of what appears to be a jet fighter designed using sophisticated stealth technology, military experts are warning that the aircraft – reportedly capable of besting America’s F-22 in speed and maneuverability – could pose the greatest threat yet to U.S. air superiority.
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Decorated Navy fighter pilot Matthew “Whiz” Buckley, a Top Gun graduate of the Navy Fighter Weapons School who flew 44 combat missions over Iraq, says, “It’s probably leaps and bounds above where we are, and that’s terrifying.” “As a former Navy fighter pilot, going up against something that’s stealthy, highly maneuverable and with electronic systems more capable than mine -- that’ll keep me up at night,” said Buckley, now chief strategy officer at Fox3 Options LLC.

Buckley said photos posted online of the radar-evading Chengdu J-20 jet fighter lead him to believe the aircraft has great stealth capabilities, based on what appears to be a bumpy exterior possibly housing stealth technology, and the lack of external components, such as a gas tank and missiles. “It was built to reduce radar signatures. You can tell it has some serious stealth technology,” he said. “My F-18 looks like an 18-wheeler on radar. That thing might not even show up.”

The U.S. military's current top-of-the-line fighter is Lockheed Martin's F-22 Raptor, the world's only operational fifth generation fighter. In 2009, Congress capped production of F-22s at 18, relying on the cheaper F-35. Congress does not appear to be reconsidering the cap, which experts call the only real challenger to China’s J-20. Richard Fisher, a senior fellow on Asian Military Affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, a Washington-based security think tank, says Chinese officials have said that their program is aimed at competing with the F-22 Raptor.

“From what we can see, I conclude that this aircraft does have great potential to be superior in some respects to the American F-22, and could be decisively superior to the F-35,” said Fisher.

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US-Taiwan fighter jet deal remains grounded
03 Oct 2011 : Block on US sale of F16 Fighting Falcons ruffles feathers amid the island nation's military.
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On a gloomy, storm-cast morning, Lieutenant Colonel Cheng Kuang Jen looks out over the runway, as two of his squadron's fighter jets take off on their first patrol of the day. His mood is as sombre as the weather. The team leader of the 4th Tactical Fighter Wing of Taiwan's Air Force, he had been hoping for months that the US would approve the sale of a newer class of F16 jet fighter planes.

Instead, the Obama administration decided it would only, in a deal worth $5.85 billion, provide upgrades to the existing fleet. Cheng believes the debate has been wrongly focused on the age of the island's F16s. "The F16s we have are not that old," the Lt Col says. "What we need to replace are our F5s. I don't understand why no one in America seems to be talking about that." You could put it on spin.

In announcing the upgrade, Kurt Campbell, US Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, focused his comments on how significant the package was. "This retrofit programme will provide a substantial increase in the survivability, the reliability, and the overall combat capabilities of Taiwan's 145 F16 A and B fighter aircraft." What he didn't mention is the fact that Taiwan's request for new F16 C and D fighters were to specifically replace the roughly 60 F5 jets that are already halfway through their third decade of service, and in desperate need of being retired (Taiwan's current fleet of F16 A and Bs are only about 13 years old).

The case for such was made more pressing on September 15, when a twin-seater F5 fighter - along with an F5 reconnaissance plane - crashed into the mountains in northeastern Taiwan, killing three servicemen. It was the sixth flight mishap involving F5s in seven years. Taiwan defence officials tell Al Jazeera that US decision-makers were made very much aware that the F5s had mostly been relegated to training and intelligence gathering missions due to their unreliability, which meant the overall number of fighters available for Taiwan's defence was rapidly shrinking.

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Pentagon report backs US refusal to sell F-16 jets
Sun, Oct 02, 2011 - US senators have been briefed on a new classified Pentagon report that details the state and needs of Taiwan’s air force.
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According to sources, the report justifies US President Barack Obama’s decision not to sell advanced F-16C/D jets to Taipei on the grounds that the planes and the runways from which they would operate could not survive an initial missile attack from China. The report — delivered nearly 20 months late — is said to recommend that Taiwan buy short takeoff and vertical landing fighters, such as the British-made Harrier jump-jet or the Lockheed Martin F-35B Joint Strike Fighter. Neither of these planes is likely to be made available. The Harrier is now out of production and it may be another decade before the F-35B is sold for export.

Reuters news agency is reporting that Lockheed Martin — which also makes F-16s — is now lobbying the US Congress to continue pushing for the sale of F-16C/Ds to Taiwan. According to Reuters, the aircraft maker is arguing that Taiwan has some of the best-protected and hardened aircraft shelters in the region. In addition, Lockheed says that Taiwanese fighter pilots are being trained to take off and land from highways while its engineers are leading the world in rapid runway repair technology. Other military experts say that even if the F-35B were made available, Obama would not sell it to Taiwan for fear of causing a major break with China. They also ask why China is so opposed to the sale of F-16C/Ds to Taiwan if they would be irrelevant in a conflict.

Because of the sensitivity of the subject and the classified status of the report, the Taipei Times could not find any senators who were prepared to comment on this week’s briefings. However, according to one Congressional staffer, the briefings were angled to support the White House decision not to sell the 66 F-16C/Ds that Taiwan has been desperately trying to acquire for years.

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Report: Chinese stealth fighter to be operational by 2018
May 18th, 2012 - The U.S. believes that China's radar-evading fighter jet will be operational in six years, a Pentagon official said Friday.
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China is expected to have sufficient numbers of its J-20 fighter and enough pilots trained to conduct missions with the stealthy jet by 2018 but not any earlier, according to David Helvey, acting deputy assistant secretary of defense for East Asia and Asia Pacific affairs. Chinese officials have said they expect the J-20 to be operational between 2017 and 2019. Helvey spoke about the Defense Department's annual report to Congress regarding China's military developments. Analysts believe that the J-20 will have the radar-evading capability of fifth-generation fighters produced by the United States, like the F-22 and F-35. The report cited the J-20 as an example of China's emphasis on military modernization programs.

In March, China announced an estimated 11% jump in its military budget, to roughly $106 billion. The actual figure, which is probably much larger, is difficult to estimate due to the non-transparent nature of China's budget. For example, Helvey said, the published military budget does not include several major categories of expenditures such as foreign weapons purchases, nuclear force modernization and research and development. The Defense Department estimates that in 2011, China's total military-related spending ranged between $120 billion and $180 billion.



While the report says China's main focus is deterring conflict with Taiwan, the U.S. again made bold statements on the cyberthreat posed by China, accusing the nation of cyberattacks and economic espionage. "Chinese attempts to collect U.S. technological and economic information will continue at a high level and will represent a growing and persistent threat to U.S. economic security," the report said.

Various sections of the report also mentioned the larger role China is playing around the globe with non-traditional security missions like humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations, non-combatant evacuation operations, military medical assistance missions and U.N. peacekeeping missions. "For the first time in its history, the (People's Liberation Army) is going places and doing things and is at the incipient stages of taking on an expeditionary mindset," said David Finkelstein, who directs the China studies program at CNA, a nonprofit research institute in Alexandria, Virginia.

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New pictures show second Chinese stealth fighter being test flown
November 2nd, 2012 WASHINGTON (CNN) - CNN has obtained detailed photographs of a new stealth fighter being tested in China.
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It is the second such stealth fighter China has tested in as many years and appears destined to become the communist nation's future aircraft carrier-based fighter jet, according to weapons analysts. The plane, dubbed by outsiders as the J-31, was test flown Tuesday in Shenyang. According to the analysts, the two photographs obtained by CNN appear to have been leaked by officials in China. "It has to be an official photographer because nobody else can get that close to the airplane," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org. "These are all publicity photos from the factory, and I could not imagine that the factory would publicize these things without somebody higher up in the food chain authorizing it."

Richard Fisher, a senior fellow in Asian military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center (IASC), agrees these are not pictures sent out surreptitiously by some Chinese aviation aficionado. "The Internet censors are controlling this process, have no doubt that." But Fisher said the reason for the release may not be as threatening as some might imagine. "It's being done in a way to help promote pro-military nationalism in China. There's just a huge, large audience in China for this kind of information. It's kind of like NASCAR." No matter who let the pictures go public, they won't answer all the questions surrounding China's fighter program. "They don't want to reveal anything that's truly useful to a foreign military or intelligence service," Fisher said.



In January 2011, China tested the J-20, a fighter jet with stealth characteristics, much like the American F-22. Fisher said the J-31 appears be a lighter fighter jet similar to the American F-35. "The J-20 is the heavy stealth fighter, (The J-31) is going to be the medium-weight stealth fighter. It's very much in the same vein as the F-22 versus the F-35, with the Raptor, the F-22 being the heavy fifth-generation fighter for the U.S. Air Force versus the medium-weight F-35." Pike said that could be the case, but it may be that China is test flying both prototypes and will choose just one to put into production. While these are both fifth-generation fighter jets, that doesn't put them on par with America's two newest fighters.

For example, Pike said China's jet engines just don't come close to American engines. "This is a sucking chest wound of Chinese military aviation." Pike said the primary Chinese military jet engine is based on an American design. "We started development of this engine back in the '60s. Then they commercialized it in the 1970s. Then the Chinese got a hold of it 20 years ago and it's still no good. It's a half century-old design that they've been working on for two decades, and it's still no good." Fisher has a higher opinion of that engine. "It's not entirely true that China is currently facing massive problems. They've actually had some measure of success."

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Analysts: China Aircraft Carrier Landing Poses No Direct Threat
November 26, 2012 - Western analysts say China's recent landing of a Russian designed fighter jet on an aircraft carrier, though significant, poses no immediate regional or international security threats.
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In reports published Sunday, China's state-run news agencies said the navy landed several Chinese-made J-15 jets on the carrier Liaoning in the past week. The reports said the warplanes also took off successfully. Chinese military analysts described the daytime landings and take-offs as a "landmark" in the navy's efforts to develop the combat capability of the Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier.

Bonnie Glaser, senior Asia Adviser at the Washington D.C.-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, told VOA while this is a significant achievement for China, it needs to be put in perspective. "The landing took place in good weather and it took place in the daytime. It is significantly more difficult to land an aircraft on a carrier at night and in bad weather."

The China Daily quoted a military researcher as saying it will take at least two years for the J-15s to become fully operational. He also predicted the Liaoning will need four to five years to achieve full combat capability.

Asia security analyst Michael McKinley of the Australian National University told VOA the landing and takeoff event represents China's infancy in naval aviation and is a long process of gaining operational confidence. "It's not significant in terms of current or even short-term naval capabilities. China is a long way off of being able to project and deploy significant naval aviation power beyond its coastal fringe."

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China gives glimpse of its J-31 stealth fighter
Nov. 13, 2014 | China has given attendees at an international air show a brief glimpse of its new J-31 stealth fighter
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China this week partially lifted the veil on its new J-31 stealth fighter, using the aircraft for an aerial display at an international airshow. The prototype aircraft, with twin-engines and said to have features similar to the stealth F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter from Lockheed Martin, maneuvered in the sky above the 10th China International Aviation & Space Exhibition in Zhuhai, southern China, but only a mockup appeared on static display.

The aircraft from AVIC, or Aviation Industry Corporation of China, is about 55 feet in length, with a wingspan of 38 feet. Its propulsion systems are, for the time being, Russian made. Other features include two internal weapons bays in addition to weapon hardpoints on the wings, much like the F-35. At the airshow, the aircraft was designated FC-31. FC is a designation used by the Chinese for an aircraft for export.

Additional aircraft specifications were unavailable. So, too, was an expected date for production of the aircraft. Display of the plane coincided with a visit to China by U.S. President Barack Obama, whose administration has expressed concern over the buildup of Chinese military power and the country's aggressive regional policies in territorial disputes, notably in the South China Sea.

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China Unveils New Stealth Fighter
November 01, 2016 - China debuted its J-20 stealth fighter Tuesday at Airshow China in the southern city of Zhuhai.
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Two J-20s made a brief appearance in the show's opening ceremonies, performing a series of maneuvers and generating enough noise to set off car alarms in a nearby parking lot, Reuters reported. The warplane is China's second stealth fighter. The J-31 was unveiled to the public at the Zhuhai airshow two years ago.


China unveils its J-20 stealth fighter during an air show in Zhuhai, Guangdong Province, China

While the J-31 is expected to be China's entrant in the global arms market, the J-20 – which resembles the U.S.'s F-22 Raptor – is unlikely to be exported. "This is the airplane for China in the way that the J-31 is not," an aviation industry official told Reuters. "This is the one they develop for themselves." The capabilities of the J-20 remain unknown. The aircraft's brief appearance Tuesday gave observers little insight into the plane's stealth, performance or firepower capabilities. And airshow attendees won't be able to see the fighter on the ground in Zhuhai.

An unnamed Chinese air force official told the South China Morning Post the airplane contains "many of China's top technologies in stealth aircraft, plus other military secrets." The official said some of those secrets would be compromised if experts got an up-close look at the aircraft's wings and body. Other planes scheduled to appear at the airshow include the Y-20 transport aircraft and the AG600, a flying boat billed by airshow organizers as the largest amphibious plane currently in production.

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New radar to hunt Chinese stealth jets
Mon, May 14, 2018 - YEARS IN THE MAKING: The military envisions a defense system comprised of active means made up of F-16 jets and passive means involving an advanced radar system
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As the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) deploys J-20 stealth fighters in increasing numbers, Taiwan is fielding mobile passive radar systems to defend its airspace against stealth aircraft, a senior Ministry of National Defense official said. Two radar units — developed by the ministry-affiliated Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology — would be deployed some time this year for operational testing, the officials said on condition of anonymity. The system would enter mass production in 2020 if the military decides that it meets its operational needs, he said.

The institute has been working for years to incorporate Western military technological trends in its mobile passive radar system, the official added. The military’s concept for counter-stealth air defense is comprised of active and passive systems, which would detect, track and lock on to stealth targets at long range, the official said. The active means would consist of upgraded F-16 warplanes, which have advanced radar systems capable of detecting stealth aircraft, he said, referring to F-16V aircraft and the APG-83 Scalable Agile Beam Radar. The radar systems would comprise the passive end of the system, the official said.


A mobile passive radar system is pictured in an undated photograph

The mobile units will be remotely linked to active phased array radar systems and “magnify” the radar cross-section of detected objects without emitting radiation, he said. They are less vulnerable to electronic warfare interference and anti-radiation missile attacks, a fact sheet published by the institute said. China claims that the J-20, its indigenous stealth strike fighter, performs on a par with the US’ F-22 Raptor, the official said, adding that the jet is likely capable of attacking targets at sea. The radar systems are a response to the threat posed by Chinese stealth fighters, including its modified Su-35 fighters, which the PLAAF has been coating with radiation-absorbing paint to give them a measure of stealth, he said.

While the J-20 is in limited service, there is no doubt that the PLAAF will increase the size of its stealth fighter fleet and supplement it with other warplanes, which would pose a significant threat to Taiwan’s air defense, he said. “These developments will erode the detection range of our advanced warning radar systems or even lead to the complete loss of advanced warning and quick reaction capabilities,” he said. “The military must plan for and deploy countermeasures to preempt them.” The PLAAF on Friday last week dispatched formations of Su-35 fighters and H-6K bombers to fly around Taiwan, the first time that the former was sent on such a patrol. The Chinese military claims that the J-20 has been deployed in air combat drills at sea.

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