sciencetology?

Winzor96 · 12-23-2006, 09:19 AM

Damn..

isn't tom hanks into Sciencetology?

DeViAnThans3 · 12-27-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Winzor96

Damn..

isn't tom hanks into Sciencetology?

Yup, he is. And other people too, very famous people. It's just a trick of Scientology to get other extra members too ...

cyxic · 01-27-2007, 10:00 PM

Scientology is proof that anyone can create a religion and have others follow it.

DeViAnThans3 · 01-28-2007, 02:03 PM

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Scientology is proof that anyone can create a religion and have others follow it.

I disagree partially - you must have real " good " ideas, you must know how to attract people. You must also try to avoid as much critic as possible - what Scientology tries to do, but I think didn't succeeded in.

crud3w4re · 01-28-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeViAnThans3

Everyone is free to choose his/her religion, and I'll not go off that opinion, but I think Scientology is a bit too much ... "senseless" I agree with that !

I just don't 'get it' is all.

biomark · 02-07-2007, 05:54 PM

Interesting part of Scientology. There are different "levels" that you achieve (some of this is based on how much money you give to the church), and if you are at a higher level in the religion than your wife... you are forbidden to discuss what goes on at that level with anyone, including your wife. Is that ridiculous or what? The religion actually encourages married people to keep secrets from eachother.

02-07-2007, 09:47 PM

Well here's my question. If Scientology gets rich, successful people to give to the church, what is it that these people get in return? What's the doctrine that draws them to the church---or is it just the lure of belonging to something that you have to pay money for?

Adonai · 02-13-2007, 03:07 PM

I mean no disrespect but let's not forget that Christianity is big business it no longer about one Faith / Belief it all about how money one can gives !!

evil_savage · 02-15-2007, 03:53 PM

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I mean no disrespect but let's not forget that Christianity is big business it no longer about one Faith / Belief it all about how money one can gives !!

That is false. Obviousley more money is encouraged but you can't buy your way into heaven!

Adonai · 02-15-2007, 11:09 PM

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That is false. Obviousley more money is encouraged but you can't buy your way into heaven!

They encouraged more money because it all about money = big business . By the way where is this heaven you speak of ?

waltky · 08-17-2007, 11:24 PM

possum don't think this is kosher...

Scientology-Linked Group Infiltrates Israeli Summer Camps
August 17, 2007 - A group teaching the core moral values as outlined by Church of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard has been conducting workshops at Israeli summer camps this month without the knowledge of the children's parents.

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During the month of August, most Israeli children attend summer camps, as both parents typically work. News First Class, an online Israeli news agency, learned that at many of those camps, the children are getting morning lectures by volunteers from the Association for Prosperity and Security in the Middle East (APSME), a group that promotes Hubbard's teachings. At the end of the lectures, the children were all given copies of Hubbard's booklet, The Way to Happiness, and a wall poster containing its main points.

APSME insists on its website that the organization and The Way to Happiness are not affiliated with the Church of Scientology, and that the booklet is a purely non-religious moral code that is compatible with all religions. But some Israeli parents are not so sure. "It looked like the messages were generally positive, like rules for good behavior," said one parent who spoke to the Israeli news portal Ynet on condition anonymity.

"But then I saw who authored them and I happen to know that he is the founder of the Church of Scientology...I cannot understand how they expose children to such things, and without the parent's being aware of that?" continued the angry parent. A former member of the Church of Scientology in Israel, who also refused to give her name, called The Way to Happiness an "imitation of the Ten Commandments" found in the Bible.

As in other countries, the Church of Scientology in Israel hopes that people who hear the message in The Way to Happiness later turn to the church for further guidance down the path laid out by Hubbard. In 2003, Israel's Ministry of Education ruled that The Way to Happiness is not to be used in Israeli schools, following efforts by the APSME to have the Hebrew version of the booklet included in the official school curriculum.

But Israeli summer camps operate largely independent of the ministry, and therefore individual camp leaders are free to decide what material the children will be exposed to. News First Class accused the APSME of exploiting a current morality crisis in Israel by pushing a message on young children that sounds harmless, but ultimately leads to bondage in what it called a "dangerous cult." During last summer's Lebanon war, the APSME took advantage of the confusion in northern Israel to approach war-battered and distraught residents with their message.

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waltky · 09-04-2007, 02:18 PM

Belgium not too happy with Scientology either...

Scientology Faces Criminal Charges
Sep 4, 2007 - Scientologists Risks Criminal Charges After 10-Year Belgian Probe

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A Belgian prosecutor on Tuesday recommended that the U.S.-based Church of Scientology stand trial for fraud and extortion, following a 10-year investigation that concluded the group should be labeled a criminal organization. Scientology said it would fight the criminal charges recommended by investigating prosecutor Jean-Claude Van Espen, who said that up to 12 unidentified people should face charges.

Van Espen's probe also concluded that Scientology's Brussels-based Europe office and its Belgian missions conducted unlawful practices in medicine, violated privacy laws and used illegal business contracts, said Lieve Pellens, a spokeswoman at the Federal Prosecutors Office. "They also face charges of being ... a criminal organization," Pellens said in a telephone interview.

An administrative court will decide whether to press charges against the Scientologists. In a statement, Scientology's Europe office accused the prosecutor of hounding the organization and said it would contest the charges.

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NoTx · 09-13-2007, 06:10 PM

Lets just say that there has been, repeatedly, criminal behavior connected to this group in order to gain converts. Some of which I have seen happen to people close to me.

I do not consider them a religion.

tbl · 10-28-2007, 09:14 PM

Personally I love Scientology, it's a great concept. Seriously (in the words of South Park), what's better than getting people do believe a really stupid idea... having them pay you for it. Also as L. Ron Hubbard allegedly said: The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion.

waltky · 10-28-2007, 09:59 PM

The old Aurthur Murray dance scandal comes to mind.

They would 'advance' people based on the amount of money they spent taking dance lessons.

Wonder if ol' L. Ron Hubbard was a dancer?

waltky · 12-07-2007, 07:22 PM

Scientology not welcome in Germany...

Germany Wants Nationwide Ban On Scientology
December 7, 2007 - The interior ministers of Germany's 16 states plan to task the domestic intelligence agency in getting the necessary information to ban Scientology which is under observation on allegations that it "threatens the peaceful democratic order" of the country.

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The ministers, as well as federal Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, "consider Scientology to be an organization that is not compatible with the constitution," said Berlin Interior Minister Ehrhart Koerting. Hamburg secretary of the interior Udo Nagel wants a nationwide ban on Scientology, saying it pursues "anti-constitutional goals in an aggressively fierce" manner that run counter to human rights and dignity.

Scientology spokeswoman Sabine Weber called Nagel's proposal "more than incomprehensible" and pointed out that the European Court of Human Rights ruled in favor of Scientology when Russia denied its application to register as a religious community.

The U.S. State Department regularly criticizes Germany in its annual Human Rights Report for monitoring Scientology activities, the Associate Press reported. Germany considers Scientology a commercial enterprise that takes advantage of vulnerable people. It initially refused to allow Scientology member Tom Cruise to film last summer to film at the site where Germany's most famous anti-Hitler plotter was executed.

Germany Wants Nationwide Ban On Scientology | December 7, 2007 | AHN

dageriz · 03-30-2008, 09:27 AM

its not exactly a huge religiong, its just that some strange celebrities follow it, soon it will fizzle out and people wont give a damn about it. The whole religion is pathetic, Dont they say were like exiled aliens?!

waltky · 03-30-2008, 12:11 PM

I think Urantia are the ones who think they are exiled aliens...

... maybe they are.

waltky · 09-09-2008, 04:34 AM

Granny says she always knowed dey was a bunch o' hokum...

Scientology on trial for fraud
September 08, 2008 - THE Church of Scientology is to be tried for fraud, and seven of its members for illegally prescribing drugs.

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The trial is the latest clash between French officials and the controversial religion. The charges stem from a case taken by a woman who said she paid the church more than €20,000 ($34,590) for lessons, books, drugs and an "electrometre," a device which the church says can measure a person's mental state. She allegedly made the payments after being approached by Scientologists in a Paris street in 1998.

The case to be examined at a still-unknown date by a Paris court is also being taken by another plaintiff and by France's professional pharmaceutical association. Founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology, which has attracted Hollywood stars such as Tom Cruise, was officially recognised as a religion there 20 years later. But it is often accused in France and in other European countries, including Belgium, Germany and Greece, of exploiting its members financially.

Scientology followers are expected to contribute money to the church's coffers and follow its courses in order to climb through the ranks. In particular Scientologists use a spiritual healing method called Dianetics, which is designed to help alleviate unwanted sensations and emotions, irrational fears and psychosomatic illnesses. A French parliamentary commission has classified the church as a sect.

More Scientology on trial for fraud | NEWS.com.au